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AMD Ryzen 4000 desktop CPUs to be fabbed on TSMC N5P?

by Mark Tyson on 29 May 2020, 13:11

Tags: AMD (NYSE:AMD), TSMC

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An interesting rumour about AMD's upcoming Ryzen 4000 series (Zen 3) desktop CPUs has been published by Taiwan's DigiTimes, via Retired Engineer on Twitter. DigiTimes heard from its industry sources that TSMC's enhanced 5nm process (N5P) will begin mass production in Q4 this year, ahead of schedule. Due to this good fortune, the source says that AMD and TSMC have made adjustments to their plans and that the Ryzen 4000 series of desktop processors will be manufactured using TSMC N5P, rather than 7nm EUV. DigiTimes refers to this alignment of the stars as one that could precipitate "the biggest change in 15 years" for the PC competitive landscape.

Is this roadmap already out of date?

AMD has been kindling a close and comprehensive partnership with TSMC this year particularly as it has seen a "huge increase in sales" thanks to its successful introduction of Zen 2 architecture processors. Recently it benefited from the Huawei/US crisis, and AMD being able to take up this capacity has been good for TSMC's bottom line.

It is understood that TSMC has been producing N5 chips since April, and it will begin N5P output early. Expectations are that "enhanced 5nm Ryzen processors will put unprecedented pressure on Intel" which is even now still making processors using 14nm technology.

Separately, Nvidia's first 7nm graphics processors are said to be on the way to "full production" in H2 this year.

AMD Ryzen 4000 APU (Renoir, Zen 2) leaked benchmarks impress

Up and coming Twitter leakster RoGame has shared some interesting comparisons that he has data mined from the 3DMark online benchmark databases. In summary the new APUs look like they will be significantly stronger on the CPU side while GPU performance remains much the same intergenerationally.

The comparisons provided pit the AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 4200G with Radeon Graphics - against the AMD Ryzen 3 3200G with Vega 8 Graphics, and the AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 4700G with Radeon Graphics - against the AMD Ryzen 5 3400G with Vega 11 Graphics.

 

If you are wondering about these results, the new APUs feature more cores/threads and the newer process / architecture, meanwhile AMD has cut the GPU CU counts, while more or less maintaining iGPU performance.

Twitter's Tum Apisak has also been busy unearthing 3DMark benchmark results for Ryzen 4000-series APUs. In a recent tweet he shared purported FireStrike scores for the AMD Ryzen 7 Pro 4700G, Ryzen 5 Pro 4400G, and Ryzen 3 Pro 4200G.



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hexus
Due to this good fortune, the source says that AMD and TSMC have made adjustments to their plans and that the Ryzen 4000 series of desktop processors will be manufactured using TSMC N5P, rather than 7nm EUV.
can I just check that's correct? The slide later in the article says ryzen 3 at 7nm and ryzen 4 at 5nm. Due to their silly naming the ryzen 3 cpus are the 4000 series, so do you mean the 5000 series ryzen 4 will be 5nm, or definitely that the upcoming 4000 due out later this year will actually be 5nm?

If so that upgrade path for a B450 mobo or better will be incredible. 5nm on the AM4 socket!!!
are you all aware intel can simply offload some of its chips to TSMC or even Samsung?
lumireleon
are you all aware intel can simply offload some of its chips to TSMC or even Samsung?

Then why are they still using 14nm+++++ ? :)
For the 2 people above Intel would just have to close fabs then… can't see that happening as they have always stated they will never be a fabless company.
They have loads of capacity just on a process that's years behind
Volume manufacturing in Q4 and launching a product is a rather tight timescale

ik9000
can I just check that's correct? The slide later in the article says ryzen 3 at 7nm and ryzen 4 at 5nm. Due to their silly naming the ryzen 3 cpus are the 4000 series, so do you mean the 5000 series ryzen 4 will be 5nm, or definitely that the upcoming 4000 due out later this year will actually be 5nm?

If so that upgrade path for a B450 mobo or better will be incredible. 5nm on the AM4 socket!!!

The slide in the article might be outdated, so we might see ryzen 4000 on 5nm