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Intel is preparing to annihilate NVIDIA: the war is on

by Tarinder Sandhu on 11 April 2008, 15:05

Tags: NVIDIA (NASDAQ:NVDA)

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Larrabee: it's getting hot in here

Reiterating a really important point, Intel's erosion of NVIDIA's bread-and-butter revenue remains fanciful conjecture right now. There is no Larrabee being demo'd right now, performance is, well, completely unknown, and for Intel to get it wholly right first time would be a minor miracle.

Still, NVIDIA appears to be taking no chances and is attacking Intel in typically belligerent fashion. The company's diatribe against Intel, on all fronts, has been increasingly scathing of late, prompting Jen-Hsun to brand Larrabee as Laughabee.

NVIDIA points out Intel has little meaningful experience in architecting discrete GPUs - it's a different ballgame. That's certainly true, of course, and we don't expect first-generation Larrabee to steal the performance crown right away.

The green team makes mention that Intel's drivers for the current range of IGPs is, well, dire. They has a point, because Intel still has to deliver DX10 drivers for its X3500 IGP on the G35 chipset, something that's been promised for a long time. Indeed, after speaking to Intel representatives it seems we're unlikely to see DX10 drivers before the launch of the 4-series chipsets in summer '08.

NVIDIA's PR machine isn't just limiting its volley to Intel's IGPs, however. In a carefully-orchestrated exercise that's designed to appeal to enthusiasts, the 'Optimized PC' campaign sees NVIDIA educate users on how to build a balanced PC. Funnily enough, the 'advice' centres around purchasing a potent graphics sub-system at the direct expense of a slower CPU. Who, after all, really needs a faster (quad-core) processor in today's world, seems be the message.

There are a couple of obvious problems with this approach, we feel. Firstly, what exactly is an Optimized PC? How should I apportion my budget? No clear guidelines are set. Secondly, the rubbishing of high-end CPUs as practically meaningless investments has a counterpoint. What if you want to edit and/or convert high-definition video or audio? What about those folk who really do multi-task?

We understand where NVIDIA's coming from with this campaign, but it needs to be better thought-out and executed if it's to gain public traction.

In essence, it's a CPU vs. GPU debate, and whilst the multi-purpose GPU is becoming far more versatile and powerful with every iteration, the much-attacked CPU, whilst bloody, will remain unbowed.

How will it play out, then?

NVIDIA's seems to be upset that a bigger, richer bully has decided to make the green playground home. Perhaps now it knows what it feels like to be squeezed, just like it has allegedly squeezed so many others in the past.

That pent-up anger has boiled over into public fulminations that arise from the fear that's striking at the very heart of the company's core (pun intended).

Make absolutely no mistake about it, there's a war going on right now between Intel and NVIDIA. Intel has quietly moved its financially-heavy guns and aligned them not at AMD but at NVIDIA; the crosshairs trained on Jen-Hsun's baby. NVIDIA's fighting back the only way it knows how, by engineering and vitriolically disseminating a campaign of carefully-worded propaganda - or is too inaccurate a word for it, we wonder?

NVIDIA's attack on the relevance of CPUs cleverly hides its own ambitions into designing, or, indeed, buying-in IP, for an x86 core to rival Intel and AMD's. We've seen NVIDIA court VIA in recent weeks, and the search for that ever-so-elusive x86 license continues at speed.

Jen-Hsun is a hugely ambitious, intelligent man who won't go down without one helluva fight. That fight appears to be against Intel. Mark our words, it'll be bloody and protracted. It'll end with either NVIDIA's acknowledgement that Intel's become a major player in the discrete GPU market, or with the chip giant running away, tail between the legs, never to darken the discrete GPU kingdom again. Who is your money on?

The ante has been raised considerably in Q1 2008; expect to see it increased further still. The war is on. Just as well that AMD can grab a ringside seat and watch what ensues. Trouble is, at this rate, it won't have any executives to fill those seats.



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Still, if it wasn't for AMDs superior chips Intel would not have come to the table with the Core2Duo. AMD will strike back, much as Intel did, but give it time.

NVIDIA aren't int he same position as AMD as Nvidias core business are graphics and have had so much more experience in this field. In the graphics arena Intel are the small fry.

I'm glad this is happening though. This competition can only be good for the consumer.

Roll on better, faster products at low, low prices :)
but with intel having ALOT more money too invest it will be pretty close, hopefully they just leave amd along because i really want them too get back ontop soon but i hope it kicks nvidia hard and forces them to bring good new technology at a good price(none of this £300 + crap).
Lord Midas;1390900
NVIDIA aren't int he same position as AMD as Nvidias core business are graphics and have had so much more experience in this field. In the graphics arena Intel are the small fry.

Mind you, Intel has the biggest share of the graphics pie. Of course, it only sells IGPs, but since many motherboards and laptops come with theirs, they are anything but a small fry in the graphics arena.
From what I've seen of Intel's latest product lines, they don't seem to generally be in the “sudden break-in to new market” type. Atom is starting out simple, aimed at UMPCs and small, low power systems. Establishing a name whilst refining techniques seem to be the name of the game.

I wouldn't be surprised if, on launch, it turns out that Larrabee is a Tesla/Quadro competitor first and foremost, with a low performance derivative eventually becoming their new IGP. They need to get developers on board with their new SDK and build up a customer base to get returns as fast as possible, and I suspect the professional rendering market would be the best area for this (and look at all the talk of raytracing, a professional rendering area more than a gaming thing).

The posturing by nVidia is really for the sake of shareholders, and partially to try and goad Intel into revealing more information. nVidia needs to know what Intel is really doing as soon as possible.

The curious aspect to all of this is the x86 side of speculation. Given the high performance focus of nVidia's chipset and GPU ranges, VIA's low power and low cost x86 offerings don't seem to fit. Intel have the high power x86 cornered (and developing a true competitor would be a lot of work), and AMD seem to have the low power side sorted. So what would be nVidia's initial angle if they did get into that sector?
I think Nvidia finds itself in a situation where it is the winner (in terms of growth, marketshare, and profitability) of an era that is coming to an end. This era, however you define it, really extended visual computing into the mass market via 3D gaming. But I think both Nvidia and ATI only really did well by riding the success that an interdependent relationship with Microsoft can bring … just before it goes bad :)

If you look back to 95 there were a surprising number of 3d graphic card companies around. 3Dfx, Rendition, ATI, Matrox, Number Nine, NVIDIA, PowerVR, S3 and 3D Labs for starters. The 3d add-on board market was very new and fragmented with a lot 3D API's including OpenGL and a not very well regarded Direct3D. Next up - 3D API war. SGI gets shafted and Microsoft releases DirectX 7, then Nvidia gets in bed with MS for DX8/Xbox and then it's ATI's turn for DX9/Xbox360 and they all made lots and lots of money.

Until Vista came along.

For gaming Vista has not been good and Microsoft probably isn't that concerned because they have 360s to sell anyway. Of more concern for Nvidia and ATI are changes to hardware support because they are a little too reliant on Microsoft not shifting its API to favour other solutions (like CPU parallelism for physics, sound and video for example - how very Xbox360). Creative's hardware advantage with the X-FI soundcard was basically gutted on Vista and maybe thats the kind of thing could happen to others.

What is interesting is that Nvidia and AMD/ATI are now a little more interested in the advantages of opensource hardware drivers than they used to be. There might be some platform anxiety happening because Microsoft isn't sharing information on what they are doing with Intel. And then Microsoft releases the report blaming Nvidia for Vista crashes … ouch.

Nvidia opening up a can of whoop ass is probably all that is left to them. What they really need is a decent platform. I say forget DX10 but give John Carmack whatever fancy new API extensions he needs to make the Rage engine and then help Apple launch a gaming Mac. Now that would be whoopen some ass.

BTW this is all heresay.