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When quad-cores collide: AMD Phenom 9600 vs Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600

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Published: Monday 19th November, 2007 | Author: Tarinder Sandhu
Products: Core 2 Quad Q6600, Phenom X4 9600
Companies: Intel (All Intel content), AMD (All AMD content)
Platforms: PC
External reviews: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
External reviews: AMD Phenom X4 9600

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Summarising our thoughts on the Phenom 9600 first, AMD has seen Intel's desktop processor line-up transform from the ageing, slow Pentium to the Core-derived Duo and, a year ago, the Core 2 Quad.

Irrespective of whether you think that Intel's glue-dual-cores-together approach is architecturally inelegant, the fact remains that Core 2 Quad - in both its Kentsfield and new-and-improved Penryn flavours - is a fast and efficient processor in practically every way. AMD tried to match Intel's single-processor performance with its ill-fated '4x4 QuadFather' enthusiast proposition but has had to wait a year before releasing a couple of single-die quad-core parts.

We've disseminated all the various enhancements that make Phenom a better clock-for-clock proposition than Athlon 64 X2. We've identified that the design is elegant and maximises the architecture it's based upon, which remains largely K8. But what we've also seen is that AMD cannot match the clock-speed of Intel's slowest quad-core processor and, worse still, can't match Core 2 Quad's performance on a clock-for-clock basis either.

Put simply, AMD's best quad-core CPU last week was the Phenom 9700. Now, though, it's the Phenom 9600: AMD cannot produce effective yields at 2.4GHz. We can debate all day whether the majority of consumer software is threaded enough to take advantage of four execution cores, but the immutable fact remains that AMD's fastest quad-core offering is slower than Intel's slowest. Compounding this depressing statement for AMD is the January 2008 launch of Penryn-based Core 2 Quads, furthering Intel's performance dominance.

AMD's nascent Phenom also suffers under the considerable yoke of Intel's Core 2 Quad 6600 pricing, which at £165 for a hugely-overclockable 2.4GHz part is something of a bargain. AMD, though, is pitching its slightly underperforming quad-core part at roughly the same price. The industry needs AMD to survive and succeed yet it's very difficult to make a compelling buying recommendation for a processor that's a year behind its competitor - one who has already moved on to a more-efficient 45nm manufacturing process - is between 10-20 percent slower in most benchmarks, and costs much the same.

Our HEXUS.bang4buck graphs show that AMD needs to lower the pricing of the Phenom 9600 to, say, around £135 before it becomes a genuinely viable option to Intel's '6600, should your usage pattern reflect that of a heavy multitasker. If the Phenom 9600's pricing (£159) stays exactly where it is right now, it's a case of too little, too late, we're afraid.

Inextricably linked in with the new processor is the 7-series chipset. We're more bullish for its chances to succeed, primarily due to a lack of current competition from NVIDIA. The 790FX is geared for the enthusiast and is only hamstrung by its poorly-performing southbridge.

Lastly, the Spider platform - where AMD tries to harness the innate synergies of its processors, chipsets and GPUs - can be bettered by a mix-and-match assortment of Intel and NVIDIA hardware, we feel.

This conclusion isn't a vitriolic fulmination against AMD at all, folks. Rather, its products, whilst undeniably better than what it's produced before, don't quite match up to the progress made by its immediate competitors in the last 18 months. AMD's running forward in the right direction; it's just that Intel and NVIDIA appear to be sprinting that way too.

Bottom line: the new Phenom quad-core processor and 7-series chipset pack in some potent technology. Trouble is, Intel got there first. You need to be better than the competition if coming from behind: AMD's new launches aren't quite that.

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We reserve absolute judgement until we review a full-production processor and motherboard. Right now, pressed for buying advice, we'd recommend our readers opt for the competition's processor, chipset, and graphics cards.

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Re: When quad-cores collide: AMD Phenom vs Intel Core 2 Quad
So disappointed...
This means that intel will likely be ahead of the game for the next year atleast, which is very bad for consumers as they can effectively price what they want for their entire quad core range with so little competition from amd.
Im all for supporting the underdog, but the fact is that its just not an option at this stage.Quote
Re: When quad-cores collide: AMD Phenom vs Intel Core 2 Quad
LOL, anyone see a trend here first ATI were slow at getting the new GPU out to out perform the 8800 they failed, same has happened with the new line of cpus, intel and nvidia are going to dominate for quite some time imo, common AMD pull your socks upQuote
Re: When quad-cores collide: AMD Phenom vs Intel Core 2 Quad

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Right now, pressed for buying advice, we'd recommend our readers opt for the competition's processor, chipset, and graphics cards.

shame.....but so true :(Quote
Re: When quad-cores collide: AMD Phenom vs Intel Core 2 Quad
I have a suggestion - substitute pop4pound(C) in reviews instead of the currently used wordage based on a failing currency =)

Slightly more on topic - Being a staunch AMD fanboi who 6 months ago built an AM2 based system hoping to be able to drop an Agena in when released and laugh at the Intel masses left coveting their inferior technology, I am understandably underwhelmed by the performance of AMDs new technological marvel. Now I've read just about all the reviews of AMD's Phenom & Spider platform and the general consensus is that the core logic is great, the graphics cards show promise and the best thing to come from their release is the Overdrive OS based BIOS utility. An interesting revelation is how well the X2 6400 stacks up against its quad core competition in running normal (i.e. non quad core optimised) applications.Quote
Re: When quad-cores collide: AMD Phenom vs Intel Core 2 Quad
I've always been an AMD fan, because they have always made excellent products. I had an old Pentium II processor back in the late 90's, and since then its been all AMD. In fact, my computer I'm using right now is powered by the AMD FX-60 running at 3.0ghz. It overclocked 400mhz no problem, and has held well for over a year.

Anyway, its too bad AMD has let down the consumer as of late with the poor chips they are putting out. For several years Intel just couldn't compete with AMD, hence why I went with the FX-60 chip.

Looks like the tides have changed and AMD is 2nd tier. It's sad because I'm looking to get a laptop some time beginning of next year, and was hoping to get another AMD chip; but with Intel completely smoking AMD its not worth investing in AMD right now.

Hopefully someday they'll take the crown again.Quote

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