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AMD and NVIDIA in Batman Arkham Asylum AA fiasco - who's telling the truth?

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Published: Tuesday 3rd November, 2009 | Author: HEXUS Staff
Companies: Eidos (All Eidos content), AMD (All AMD content), ATi Technologies (All ATi Technologies content), NVIDIA (All NVIDIA content)

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Eidos spills the beans?

As is HEXUS' responsible practice, we ask companies to validate their claims and Chris Hook AMD's Sr. Manager Public Relations for its GPU Division, authorised the release of the email chain, referred to by Richard Huddy in his posting on the HEXUS.community, to HEXUS.

Although HEXUS previously published this email chain, subsequent to discussions with AMD's legal counsel and that we now understand that that the original email chain was slightly abridged, we have since decided that to continue to publish these emails serves no substantial ongoing purpose.

Suffice to say that HEXUS has been satisfied as to the existence and substance of the emails referred to by AMD and that, interpreting the email chain, it appears that the NVIDIA code optimisations and agreement with Eidos prevent AMD's cards from running in-game antialiasing.

Huddy's also stated that further AMD attempts to enable AA in the game have been met with the same restrictions imposed by the NVIDIA code.

NVIDIA's Lars Weinand may well not be in the loop as to the ramifications of NVIDIA's optimisations, of course, so putting the blame squarely at AMD's door would seem to be a logical move.

The entire episode can be viewed one of two ways. On the one hand, NVIDIA's spent money and resources in enabling AA for an engine - Unreal Engine 3.5 - that doesn't natively support it under DX9 due to the use of deferred shading (DX10 is fine, though), so why should AMD be given the code, gratis, to enable AA on its hardware? The counterpoint, as AMD may well argue, is that the company is (at a later stage than NVIDIA) prepared to put in the legwork but is apparently claiming it isn't being given an opportunity of doing so, especially as the antialiasing function exists in DX10.

What do you think? Do today's revelations in any way vindicate AMD's McNaughton in his original assertions? We'd love to hear your thoughts here in the HEXUS.community.


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Re: News - AMD exec says NVIDIA neglecting gamers
OK nobody post any more crap, nightkhaos has it pretty much wrapped up in 2 posts so we just need answers now. And I hope we get them.Quote
Re: News - AMD exec says NVIDIA neglecting gamers

Quote: Zhaoman
OK nobody post any more crap, nightkhaos has it pretty much wrapped up in 2 posts so we just need answers now. And I hope we get them.

No more crap ?
Sheeeesh - There goes my whole persona...Quote
Re: News - AMD exec says NVIDIA neglecting gamers
In truth Intel, AMD and Nvidia are all "greedy" by this notion and I have NO issue with this as they are so valuable to the US economy and to computing in general. Their contributions allow computing to grow and for the US to be strong, so as far as I am concerned more power to all companies concerned!


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Re: News - AMD exec says NVIDIA neglecting gamers

Quote: dadan
In truth Intel, AMD and Nvidia are all "greedy" by this notion and I have NO issue with this as they are so valuable to the US economy and to computing in general. Their contributions allow computing to grow and for the US to be strong, so as far as I am concerned more power to all companies concerned!


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OK this 'greedy' business has been dealt with before. All companies are 'greedy' and strive to make the most profits but there is a difference between being competitive (good for the market and consumers) and anti-competitive (bad for the market and consumers). There is evidence to suggest nVidia are guilty of the latter so that is really not good news for us, whether you like your companies 'greedy' or not. For elaboration please read the Hexus article.

And why on earth did you include a link to truck parts with your post?? I daren't suggest the S word because it's being branded around a lot lately but maybe just maybe...Quote
Re: News - AMD exec says NVIDIA neglecting gamers
look at his other posts, its just a spammerQuote

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